在我看来，中美两国很难脱钩。两者作为世界第一大和第二大经济体，两者不可能做到脱钩。为什么呢？因为中美已经在一些价值链、供应链中相互融合，已经融合在一起。
But of course, if you are two largest economies in the world, there is no possibility of decoupling. So I think what the US Trade Representative says in Singapore is the right thing. You cannot porce. You can realign, you can restrategize, but you cannot porce. There is no such thing in decoupling. There is no such thing in decoupling in terms of macro economics. There is no such thing of decoupling in terms of technology. Because they are already integrated.
当然，作为世界上最大的两个经济体，两者不可能做到脱钩。所以，我赞同美国贸易代表戴琪在新加坡所说的话，中美两国不能脱钩。两个国家可能重新调整关系，可能重新部署规划，但是不可能脱钩。不存在脱钩，从宏观经济而言，脱钩不存在，从科技层面而言，脱钩也不存在，因为两国已经紧密结合。
It took a long time, almost two decades, three decades for this integration between the American economy and the Chinese economy. You can not just do it by a presidential order, say "now disappear", it's impossible. People that work with real economics know that. So one thing is the ideological or political use of this term, "decoupling". Another thing is the real economic meaning of decoupling. In the political arena, you can talk about that. But in practical terms, you can reduce but never decouple.
中美经济用了二三十年才达到了今天这种融合程度，现在仅凭一纸总统令就要中止合作，这是不可能的。从事实体经济的人都明白这点。“脱钩”在意识形态或政治上，与在实体经济中，有着不同的含义。在政治方面或许会有这方面的讨论，在实际情况中，融合或许会减少，但脱钩绝不可能发生。
中国发展的四大因素
Q:As former special advisor to the president of Brazil, what do you think of China's development?
作为前巴西总统顾问，你怎么看待中国的发展？
A:I think the root of China's objective, is to achieve development for its people. It's very important. It's not a dream, it's a reality. And I think China can do that because it has its unique system.