周波:如果中国能在全世界范围内的"一带一路"倡议中投资数万亿美元,中国怎会不去帮助一个对中国一直友好,又饱受战争蹂躏的国家?所以,这是有可能的。第二是关于中国在基础设施建设方面的能力,如果你看看世界上中国建造的道路、房屋或建筑物,我们的建设速度很快,且价格低廉,对于像乌克兰这样遭受战争摧残的国家来说,这是很重要的。因此,我相信中国在战后帮助重建一个更美丽的乌克兰,不是能力超强,而是独一无二。
《金融时报》:周大校,非常感谢你与我们交流。
周波:谢谢你。
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采访英文实录:
FT:China finds itself in an uncomfortable position over the war in Ukraine.Beijing's no-limits friendship with Russia puts it on the opposite side to its largest trade partner, Europe. This raises a number of key questions.
One of the most crucial is, can Beijing use its leverage with Moscow to restrain Russia from using nuclear weapons? And as Ukraine gets the upper hand militarily, what role does Beijing see for itself once the fighting is eventually over?
With me to discuss this is Senior Colonel Zhou Bo, a retired officer from China's People's Liberation Army, who is now a senior fellow at the Centre for International Security and Strategy at Tsinghua University.
Welcome, senior colonel.
Zhou Bo:Thank you, James.
FT:Could I start by just asking you how you feel the war in Ukraine is going for Russia? As I mentioned, China has a no-limits friendship with Russia.Do you feel that this friendship is now coming under strain?
Zhou Bo:Of course, China doesn't want to have this war, and I believe nobody wants to have this war. And I believe even President Putin would regret to have this war, because of the result, which is apparent. He could not afford to lose a war, but apparently, he can hardly win this war.
When China thinks about this warI think you mentioned a very important word which is often misquoted in the international media. Although they quoted in a right way to call it 'unlimited friendship.'
But this term is most misunderstood, in that..